All copper? Nice. Now why can't I find an all copper AIO for the ThreadRipper? I don't want to have to deal with corrosion, but everything seems to have an aluminum radiator.
Probably because ThreadRipper is not a house heater, but a processor and doesn't need a $400, all copper, cooling device to work at defaults without throttling.
Throttling is its designed default, so that's a false starting point. The reality is that IF you want your 2990WX to perform closer to the W3175X, then you must OC it and must also therefore accept higher thermal output and power consumption. At "default" values, the 2990WX is significantly slower across nearly every test: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2387?vs=21...
On the benchmarks you linked there the ones that matter for the use cases for either of these CPUs (multithreaded rendering like blender cinebench etc) the Intel part is minorly faster. When you factor just the CPU price difference (not even counting the rest of the platform) the Intel Xeon makes no sense. If you want to talk gaming performance then the 9900k walks all over it. I just don’t see a case where this CPU is the logical choice.
I've often wondered why Coolers and especially AIO's where made so crappy by design. If you've played around with making your own baseplate, you know you need a next to perfect copper or silver baseplate and a nice balance between flow and coolant contact surface. the BOM between a good baseplate and a crappy one is maybe a dollar or so lets say 10 dollar for a silver baseplate. Same thing with the radiator. A radiator may be a kilo if you made one from copper. That's just 5 dollar. I understand you need affordable products. But why does nobody jumps in the gap and make a great one for 50 dollar more?
Yes but for some reason I thought it'd come with a 500W air cooler and that he waiting to test with this water cooler. Now I re-read it I see he was waiting to test with a *better* water cooler that had been sent, but not arrived quite in time. I think I got thrown off by this paragraph: "Intel sent an EKWB Phoenix cooler which is rated for much higher power consumption, but arrived too late for our testing. We’re planning on doing an overclocking review, so this should help. But what our results show is that when Intel showed that 5.0 GHz demonstration using a water chiller they really did need it." - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13748/the-intel-xeo...
I guess a water *chiller* is different to a water *cooler* (because it doesn't actively chill).
That very same cooler is in the Xeon box sent to Ian. Check the images and the article text, but for a quick TL;DR, the huge cooler isn't enough for aggressive OC.
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Mikewind Dale - Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - link
All copper? Nice. Now why can't I find an all copper AIO for the ThreadRipper? I don't want to have to deal with corrosion, but everything seems to have an aluminum radiator.Operandi - Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - link
All copper and no RGBs, fuck yeah! Asetek needs to sell a version of this for all the AIO form factors.yannigr2 - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
Probably because ThreadRipper is not a house heater, but a processor and doesn't need a $400, all copper, cooling device to work at defaults without throttling.nathanddrews - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
*ahem*https://www.anandtech.com/show/13124/the-amd-threa...
duploxxx - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
the statement was: to work at defaults without throttlingnathanddrews - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
Throttling is its designed default, so that's a false starting point. The reality is that IF you want your 2990WX to perform closer to the W3175X, then you must OC it and must also therefore accept higher thermal output and power consumption. At "default" values, the 2990WX is significantly slower across nearly every test:https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2387?vs=21...
AlyxSharkBite - Sunday, February 3, 2019 - link
On the benchmarks you linked there the ones that matter for the use cases for either of these CPUs (multithreaded rendering like blender cinebench etc) the Intel part is minorly faster. When you factor just the CPU price difference (not even counting the rest of the platform) the Intel Xeon makes no sense. If you want to talk gaming performance then the 9900k walks all over it. I just don’t see a case where this CPU is the logical choice.tygrus - Wednesday, January 30, 2019 - link
A cooler for a 500w or more CPU, does it come with a free egg frying attachment?JlHADJOE - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
Add a reservoir to the loop before the radiator and use it to soft-boil eggs?Foeketijn - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
I've often wondered why Coolers and especially AIO's where made so crappy by design.If you've played around with making your own baseplate, you know you need a next to perfect copper or silver baseplate and a nice balance between flow and coolant contact surface.
the BOM between a good baseplate and a crappy one is maybe a dollar or so lets say 10 dollar for a silver baseplate. Same thing with the radiator.
A radiator may be a kilo if you made one from copper. That's just 5 dollar.
I understand you need affordable products. But why does nobody jumps in the gap and make a great one for 50 dollar more?
edzieba - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
"the BOM between a good baseplate and a crappy one is maybe a dollar"Your estimate is way, way off for volume production.
Samus - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
ASETEK is the bomb.GreenReaper - Thursday, January 31, 2019 - link
Hope they're sending Ian a sample to try out on the sample machine Intel sent.arashi - Friday, February 1, 2019 - link
Did you not bother reading said article?GreenReaper - Wednesday, February 6, 2019 - link
Yes but for some reason I thought it'd come with a 500W air cooler and that he waiting to test with this water cooler. Now I re-read it I see he was waiting to test with a *better* water cooler that had been sent, but not arrived quite in time. I think I got thrown off by this paragraph:"Intel sent an EKWB Phoenix cooler which is rated for much higher power consumption, but arrived too late for our testing. We’re planning on doing an overclocking review, so this should help. But what our results show is that when Intel showed that 5.0 GHz demonstration using a water chiller they really did need it." - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13748/the-intel-xeo...
I guess a water *chiller* is different to a water *cooler* (because it doesn't actively chill).
PeachNCream - Friday, February 1, 2019 - link
That very same cooler is in the Xeon box sent to Ian. Check the images and the article text, but for a quick TL;DR, the huge cooler isn't enough for aggressive OC.Par-four - Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - link
Will this cooler work with LGA3647 Platinum 8176 CPU or just the 28-core Xeon W-3175X?