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  • skavi - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

    Does anyone else feel it's time this design should be updated? It's been the same for the last 7 years, and has appeared a tad outdated to me ever since the Surface Studio came out 3 years ago.
  • MonkeyPaw - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

    It’s just me, but I think it looks fine. People moan about bezels, but unless you have a second display (and Apple doesn’t offer one), to me, the bezels help keep the focus on the screen. I guess they could do more with it, but I love how solid, clean, and quiet my 2017 5K is.
  • Samus - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Sadly, those bezels would be ideal for a touch display, which Apple seems amendment doing for their PC lineup. They simply need an OSX retrofit to support UI functions like zoom and rotation, drag and drop, and slide bars. The touchbar on the Macbook Pro was just an insult because that stupid sensor cost way more than a full on multitouch digitizer.
  • 808Hilo - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    "Top of the line" 8 core with tiny 27' monitor, a lousy graphicscard, minimal ps, 32GB and 1gb SSD and some Apple morsels is 4800 plus tax and gets you medium 2017 performance level.

    I got a a custom Ryzen1800x, 32GB, 1tb Samsung SSD, 3tb HD, 1080 and a 32 proof monitor in a 240 Air for way way less...and with a real OS. Rather than appliance looks...mine looks like a tiny 1980 Cray :-)

    You are right - visually and computationally outdated.
  • close - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    When was the last time an OEM build was cheaper than a home build at the same lever? Or lemme guess, it's the first time you do it and feel like you're on to something new?
  • close - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    And of course we're ignoring the form factor here. Forget about building an AIO yourself.
  • 808Hilo - Sunday, March 24, 2019 - link

    Yes, Apple boy. PC is PC. A better PC is just that. AIO is a formfactor.
  • 808Hilo - Sunday, March 24, 2019 - link

    CLOSE

    Snidy comment. Good job.
  • 808Hilo - Sunday, March 24, 2019 - link

    Snidy, snidy
  • zogus - Friday, March 22, 2019 - link

    And your 32 inch monitor has how many pixels again?
  • 808Hilo - Sunday, March 24, 2019 - link

    xogsu
    Its 32, 10 bit proofscreen and does HDR. I see things that you cant.
  • damianrobertjones - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

    Just look at those Bezels! :p
  • coder543 - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

    and that spinning hard drive... seriously. A $1300 computer that doesn't include an SSD? That's going to be an awful experience for people who don't realize there's a big difference between that and the Fusion Drive version. I thought Apple cared about the experience their users have, but it seems clear that, at a minimum, their iMac department just doesn't care.
  • nevcairiel - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

    Even the Fusion drives are a joke. At the prices those things go at, they could've easily just thrown in SSDs of that size as standard, and don't bother with HDDs at all.
  • Samus - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Yeah, never been a fan of hybrid storage soluitions. I'm glad Intel\Microsoft ditched Readyboost and all that shit, only for Intel to bring it back in insulting fashion with Optane (which for all intents and purposes is Fusion Drive on steroids.)

    Two points of failure, slower than an SSD, for marginally less cost. Cool.
  • Lord of the Bored - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Long live the disk!
  • AdditionalPylons - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Completely agree. HDD-only is not acceptable even in 2014 so it is surprising to see Apple allowing this to destroy the user experience like this in 2019. The pricing for upgrades are completely insulting. It's 4-5x the retail prices of high-end SSDs and RAM!
    However, considering that a 5K screen retails for about $1200, the 27-inch model is actually priced quite competitively as long as you upgrade the RAM yourself and use external storage. Another issue is that most people are really fine with 4K instead, which is around $800 cheaper, but Apple seems unable to make a computer for us.
    (Personally I've been a Mac user since mid-90s and still prefer macOS. I am holding on to my rMBP 15" 2012, but the lack of upgradability and horribly thin keyboards will make me buy a PC laptop next time. Built a stationary Xeon workstation for Lightroom and Resolve on Windows that is a lot faster, more upgradable and affordable than anything Apple has to offer.)
  • jaydee - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Not sure how you find this surprising. Doesn't say, but it's probably still 5400 RPM. Years ago, Apple entered the land of higher margin/no innovation, because people will blindly buy their brand.
  • ABR - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    I'm right there with you. But sadly macOS *still* has it all over Windows.
  • FunBunny2 - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    that's why macOS cadged *nix. you can too.
  • smilingcrow - Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - link

    Moar BS more like.
  • The_Assimilator - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    More shittiness.
  • AdditionalPylons - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    It would have been nice if they had included an option for 10G ethernet (Aquantia chipset used in Mac mini and iMac Pro), but Apple is segmenting their market very deliberately to not cannibalise sales of the iMac Pro.
  • piroroadkill - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    I almost thought it was about the Mac Pro. iMac? Boring. Unless they bring back the iMac G4 design. THAT was a nice design.
  • Valantar - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Anyone care to elaborate on what exactly a "Radeon Pro Vega 48" is?

    As for the Pro Vega 64X - might this be a Radeon VII for Mac?
  • PeachNCream - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Apple does a lot better with their mobile devices. Like lots of people have already mentioned, there are some questionable design decisions like the use of a mechanical hard drive. Even a budget, low-endurance 3D TLC drive would be a better option if the OS was configured properly to minimize write activity.
  • smilingcrow - Wednesday, March 20, 2019 - link

    Boldly going back in time to the days of spinning hard disks and small monitors.
    This is like viewing the original Star Trek with Shatner etc.
    Nostalgic.
  • yatheesh999 - Thursday, March 21, 2019 - link

    Can 2017 imac's can be upgraded to 9th gen cpu's!

    They use same 1151 sockets.
  • AdditionalPylons - Sunday, March 24, 2019 - link

    No they can't. The chipset does not support it. (The 2017 iMacs use Z170 chipsets. 8th and 9th gen would require a 300-series chipset. See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1151#LGA_1151_re... )

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