What's subsidized about it? They didn't subsidize anything. This is the same price as Wi-Fi, plus $30 extra for the radio. Signing a contract for that data plan is a complete joke, not to mention the joke that is $30/month for 2 GB to begin with. Verizon does nothing but gouge and disrespect its customers.
You're absolutely right and I deserve that for not reading the article thoroughly. The subsidized pricing I was referring to was the pricing on Verizon's contracts.
And yes, the data plans are a complete joke. On a tablet (which is a glorified media consumption device) with 4G, people should be able to crack the 5GB barrier each month without a problem.
those wireless plans are financial terrorism. verizon is a bigger danger to the american consumer than bin laden ever was. so why is it that america sends navy seals to assault bin laden and not the terrorists running verizon?
Oh come on now. Financial terrorism? If you don't like it, don't buy it. That simple. Or better yet buy from a competitor so Verizon is forced to lower their prices. I switched to TMobile for that very reason.
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How in the world is that pricing in any way close to competitive? You're locked into a 2-year data contract and in return you get a whopping $100 discount off the price of an equivalent iPad?
I think you don't have to be very good at math to figure out that 2 years is worth a lot more than $100, especially when a 2 year phone contract gives you a discount on the order of $300-$400.
I think the biggest issue is you don't get a discount at all on either device, they're actually charging extra compared to the WiFi models... How much can a 3G radio cost? That's not even remotely justified.
They charge more for the 3G model to help recoup the loss of selling the unit and to help keep data pricing down.
Yes I know "keep pricing down"... big joke I agree, but if they sold them at the same price then the data rates would have to increase sooner rather than later.
Who cares about the initial pricing for these products when the data plans are literally hilariously bad. So we wait all this time and are ready to pay 600 bucks for 4G enabled devices and its 80 bucks for 10GB?! I'd say that's a typo but that's how all these plans are priced these days.
So we get super fast mobile internet with limits that make it unusable. Greattt
Exactly. The main reason to have extremely fast speeds is so you can enjoy streaming video, music, games, etc. Their 2GB plan won't get you very far under that usage model. And if all you do is check email and read the occasional article on the web, the 4G speed is hardly being put to much use...
why is it only netbooks are allowed to have lte? netbooks arent fast enough to take full advantage of an lte connection. why not offer an i3 lappy with lte, something with lte that is actually functional
Because laptop manufacturers don't want to get into the habit of imbedding a cellular radio into their hardware.
Think about it, Verizon, AT&T, TMobile, and Sprint (just the top four). There isn't a single radio would work with all of those. You'd have to have 4 variants of the same laptop.
OR, you could buy a LTE hotspot from Verizon for $30 and use whatever wifi device you want with it.
I went into Verizon to look into getting 20 4G LTE aircards. Until they told me that it was $50/mo for 2GB with no volume discount.
I felt bad for the salesman because even he thought it was a load of crap. Not much they can do about it though. So now we have AT&T and Verizon in lockstep, and AT&T bought out one of the few remaining competitors.
We don't have a bright mobile future unless someone comes out with real working wimax.
So if we look at it in terms of 1GB movie rentals (for the kids on a long drive) we are talking about $30 for 2 movies or $15 per movie. If you go all the way up to $80 you get to watch 10 movies per month. Crazy expensive.
One thing I would like to see is a $15/m 1GB plan. I could justify buying a 4G capable tablet and only use the wifi until I go on vacation or REALLY need wandering access to the internet. Then a $15 one time purchase for that month would be an easy purchase. There would be no mobile movie watching at that price, but should be plenty of browsing and email checking for a week.
At the current prices and entry point they are basically relegating the service to businesses who can make/save money using a tablet or individuals making significantly more money than they actually need. Some could argue that they have the best network, but when Verizon's net income is 1.6 billion (that's 1,600 millions of dollars) they are probably charging more than necessary.
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bplewis24 - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
The subsidized pricing is ridiculous.antef - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
What's subsidized about it? They didn't subsidize anything. This is the same price as Wi-Fi, plus $30 extra for the radio. Signing a contract for that data plan is a complete joke, not to mention the joke that is $30/month for 2 GB to begin with. Verizon does nothing but gouge and disrespect its customers.bplewis24 - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
You're absolutely right and I deserve that for not reading the article thoroughly. The subsidized pricing I was referring to was the pricing on Verizon's contracts.And yes, the data plans are a complete joke. On a tablet (which is a glorified media consumption device) with 4G, people should be able to crack the 5GB barrier each month without a problem.
OBLAMA2009 - Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - link
those wireless plans are financial terrorism. verizon is a bigger danger to the american consumer than bin laden ever was. so why is it that america sends navy seals to assault bin laden and not the terrorists running verizon?mpschan - Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - link
Oh come on now. Financial terrorism? If you don't like it, don't buy it. That simple. Or better yet buy from a competitor so Verizon is forced to lower their prices. I switched to TMobile for that very reason.dfjgkheu - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
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steven75 - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
How in the world is that pricing in any way close to competitive? You're locked into a 2-year data contract and in return you get a whopping $100 discount off the price of an equivalent iPad?I think you don't have to be very good at math to figure out that 2 years is worth a lot more than $100, especially when a 2 year phone contract gives you a discount on the order of $300-$400.
steven75 - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
An equivalent iPad that has NO data contract at all. The pricing is downright insulting.Impulses - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
I think the biggest issue is you don't get a discount at all on either device, they're actually charging extra compared to the WiFi models... How much can a 3G radio cost? That's not even remotely justified.Souka - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
They charge more for the 3G model to help recoup the loss of selling the unit and to help keep data pricing down.Yes I know "keep pricing down"... big joke I agree, but if they sold them at the same price then the data rates would have to increase sooner rather than later.
My $.02
yelped - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
The pricing is off-contract, at least on the HP DM-1.Insomniator - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
Who cares about the initial pricing for these products when the data plans are literally hilariously bad. So we wait all this time and are ready to pay 600 bucks for 4G enabled devices and its 80 bucks for 10GB?! I'd say that's a typo but that's how all these plans are priced these days.So we get super fast mobile internet with limits that make it unusable. Greattt
TrackSmart - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
Exactly. The main reason to have extremely fast speeds is so you can enjoy streaming video, music, games, etc. Their 2GB plan won't get you very far under that usage model. And if all you do is check email and read the occasional article on the web, the 4G speed is hardly being put to much use...MadMan007 - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - link
Being bad at math (and longer-term/non-"monthly payment" thinking) is the key to the whole stupid subsidy model we have in the US.OBLAMA2009 - Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - link
why is it only netbooks are allowed to have lte? netbooks arent fast enough to take full advantage of an lte connection. why not offer an i3 lappy with lte, something with lte that is actually functionalmpschan - Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - link
Because laptop manufacturers don't want to get into the habit of imbedding a cellular radio into their hardware.Think about it, Verizon, AT&T, TMobile, and Sprint (just the top four). There isn't a single radio would work with all of those. You'd have to have 4 variants of the same laptop.
OR, you could buy a LTE hotspot from Verizon for $30 and use whatever wifi device you want with it.
KaRRiLLioN - Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - link
I went into Verizon to look into getting 20 4G LTE aircards. Until they told me that it was $50/mo for 2GB with no volume discount.I felt bad for the salesman because even he thought it was a load of crap. Not much they can do about it though. So now we have AT&T and Verizon in lockstep, and AT&T bought out one of the few remaining competitors.
We don't have a bright mobile future unless someone comes out with real working wimax.
Sigh.
pixelstuff - Thursday, July 28, 2011 - link
So if we look at it in terms of 1GB movie rentals (for the kids on a long drive) we are talking about $30 for 2 movies or $15 per movie. If you go all the way up to $80 you get to watch 10 movies per month. Crazy expensive.One thing I would like to see is a $15/m 1GB plan. I could justify buying a 4G capable tablet and only use the wifi until I go on vacation or REALLY need wandering access to the internet. Then a $15 one time purchase for that month would be an easy purchase. There would be no mobile movie watching at that price, but should be plenty of browsing and email checking for a week.
At the current prices and entry point they are basically relegating the service to businesses who can make/save money using a tablet or individuals making significantly more money than they actually need. Some could argue that they have the best network, but when Verizon's net income is 1.6 billion (that's 1,600 millions of dollars) they are probably charging more than necessary.