Why not? GPUs have been stranded for a long time on this process node. It doesn't make a lot of sense to burn cash on a whole new chip design, while the old one suffices in performance and is mature with good yields. This is low midrange after all.
It is not like that was the only option, you can always go for FirePro 7170M, it is all about the "budget". If you can't afford it, then the three and a half years old GPU might not look as bad ;)
Remember, these are mobile parts, not full blown desktop parts. Sometimes these pack more than enough punch to be 'good enough' for mobile use on the road and fit within budget/thermal constraints.
Yes, I'm sure we'd all like to see a HBM Fury MXM card (that -would- be sweet) - but considering these are quite often subject to bean-counter approval in the corporate world - they can't always go with a 'money is no object' attitude.
Yep. AT has invented the version numbering (1.0, 1.1 and 1.2) not AMD. Which version of GCN these GPU's are using is just a sophisticated guess - a guess that all industry and wikipedia are quoting and referring to. No signs of humbleness here at AT... yet.
We've looked into the matter before and there's nothing to indicate AMD ever produced a new 10 CU part based on a later architecture. The important registers on the mobile parts like M370X all come back as matching Cape Verde.
AMD designed CGN for DX12, and it's only just come out now. So really, it's not that AMD's GPUs are based essentially on 3 year old designs that's noteworthy, it's that they were so well designed that software is only now catching up.
Not to be picky, but this is the second article mentioning the new Dell Precision Skylake laptops without saying much about them and only referencing the several-year-old GPUs in them, which is arguably the least important aspect about them. Can you also pin down Dell on when we at least can order these mythical beasts let alone get them shipped?
AMD Nor Dell no longer suports AMD FirePro W5130M (2GB GDDR5) and AMD Radeon R9 M360 On Dell Mobile Precision Workstations 3510 Mine stoped all togather!!! I have a Dell Precision Workstation 3510 and last month BOOM!!!...Graphics are gone!!! I been searching all over to find an answer!!! No one seems to want anything to do with this issue! Dell support keeps putting the issue on AMD and AMD keeps putting the issue on Dell support! I am at loss of words as to why this machine still cost over $1000 and they wont tell you of any issues it has! Especially this Dell Precision Workstation 3510. If its an issue both companies cant resolve then tell the Dell community and AMD community to stop buying this machine! But instead it seems to me they just let us figure it out on our oun. SMH
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FieryUP - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
Cape Verde in 2015, seriously? A 3 and a half year old GPU re-released as a brand new stuff, for professionals? :)ddriver - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
Why not? GPUs have been stranded for a long time on this process node. It doesn't make a lot of sense to burn cash on a whole new chip design, while the old one suffices in performance and is mature with good yields. This is low midrange after all.ImSpartacus - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
I sorta agree.Amd is hurting for cash and this yes a reasonable corner to cut.
...also I kinda like seeing pitcairn get rereleased every year.
Memo.Ray - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
It is not like that was the only option, you can always go for FirePro 7170M, it is all about the "budget". If you can't afford it, then the three and a half years old GPU might not look as bad ;)bill.rookard - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
Remember, these are mobile parts, not full blown desktop parts. Sometimes these pack more than enough punch to be 'good enough' for mobile use on the road and fit within budget/thermal constraints.Yes, I'm sure we'd all like to see a HBM Fury MXM card (that -would- be sweet) - but considering these are quite often subject to bean-counter approval in the corporate world - they can't always go with a 'money is no object' attitude.
gamervivek - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
They are based on Venus according to TPU, same as the M370X. And they're not GCN1.0 Cape Verde parts since these chips do OpenCL2.0.AT continue with this despite the above being pointed out in a thread on Beyond3D.
Zarniw00p - Saturday, October 3, 2015 - link
Yep. AT has invented the version numbering (1.0, 1.1 and 1.2) not AMD. Which version of GCN these GPU's are using is just a sophisticated guess - a guess that all industry and wikipedia are quoting and referring to. No signs of humbleness here at AT... yet.Ryan Smith - Sunday, October 4, 2015 - link
We've looked into the matter before and there's nothing to indicate AMD ever produced a new 10 CU part based on a later architecture. The important registers on the mobile parts like M370X all come back as matching Cape Verde.anubis44 - Friday, October 9, 2015 - link
AMD designed CGN for DX12, and it's only just come out now. So really, it's not that AMD's GPUs are based essentially on 3 year old designs that's noteworthy, it's that they were so well designed that software is only now catching up.MrHorizontal - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
Not to be picky, but this is the second article mentioning the new Dell Precision Skylake laptops without saying much about them and only referencing the several-year-old GPUs in them, which is arguably the least important aspect about them. Can you also pin down Dell on when we at least can order these mythical beasts let alone get them shipped?Ryan Smith - Friday, October 2, 2015 - link
"Can you also pin down Dell on when we at least can order these mythical beasts let alone get them shipped?"Unfortunately "Q4" is the best we have at this time. Dell isn't being any more specific.
moocow3308 - Wednesday, May 5, 2021 - link
AMD Nor Dell no longer suports AMD FirePro W5130M (2GB GDDR5) and AMD Radeon R9 M360 On Dell Mobile Precision Workstations 3510 Mine stoped all togather!!! I have a Dell Precision Workstation 3510 and last month BOOM!!!...Graphics are gone!!! I been searching all over to find an answer!!! No one seems to want anything to do with this issue! Dell support keeps putting the issue on AMD and AMD keeps putting the issue on Dell support! I am at loss of words as to why this machine still cost over $1000 and they wont tell you of any issues it has! Especially this Dell Precision Workstation 3510. If its an issue both companies cant resolve then tell the Dell community and AMD community to stop buying this machine! But instead it seems to me they just let us figure it out on our oun. SMH